(78) BiS Stats for Snipers/Gunslingers

By X-Boson, SWTOR forums theorycrafter.  Keyword is 470 Accuracy Rating.  You can drop Alacrity rating for Surge. Notice Relics and adrenals were not included.  Compared to Underworld gear you now should be doing about 10% more DPS. 

Alacrity is only good for the training dummy and for bosses where you can DPS uninterrupted.  Every time you have to move and interrupt your cast means all that Alacrity is going to waste.”

Marksman / Sharpshooter

  • Cunning 3770
  • Power 1606
  • Aim 155
  • Accuracy Rating 470
  • Surge Rating 282
  • Crit rating 69
  • Alacrity rating 188
  • max main-hand basic weapon dmg 863
  • max off-hand basic weapon dmg 575

Engineering / Saboteur

  • Cunning 3770
  • Power 1606
  • Aim 155
  • Accuracy Rating 470
  • Surge Rating 282
  • Crit rating 69
  • Alacrity rating 188
  • max main-hand basic weapon dmg 863
  • max off-hand basic weapon dmg 575

Hybrid

  • Cunning 3770
  • Power 1675
  • Aim 155
  • Accuracy Rating 376
  • Surge Rating 470
  • Crit rating 0
  • Alacrity rating 94
  • max main-hand basic weapon dmg 863
  • max off-hand basic weapon dmg 575

Lethality / Dirty Fightning

  • Cunning 3770
  • Power 1675
  • Aim 155
  • Accuracy Rating 470
  • Surge Rating 376
  • Crit rating 0
  • Alacrity rating 94
  • max main-hand basic weapon dmg 863
  • max off-hand basic weapon dmg 575 Source
  • Nathan

    With regards to accuracy. Would 4 acc. enhancements and 2 acc. augments be more beneficial than the 5 enhancements, or does the loss of 62(+3%) of the main stat negate the extra enhancement?
    By the way, love the work that has gone into this. Very beneficial and enjoyable reading:)

    • Nathan

      The 4 acc. enhancements and 2 acc. augments gives 110.07% from what I remember, I think that is as close to 110 as you can get?

  • Nanok

    wasnt there only 437 accuracy required to get 100% ? what is the reasoning behind 470 ? only that u need a certain amount of acc enhancements and u will be undercaped if u remove 1 ? since there is 79 accuracy on an enhancement.. you would be really close to 100.. a little undercaped

    • http://swtorboard.wordpress.com paoweeotter

      470 accuracy is in Oriconian / Dread Forged gear
      78 rating enhancements give you 94 accuracy per piece. With 4 acc enhancements, you end up with 376 accuracy, which puts you to 99,27%.
      So, you either have to sacrifice DPS by taking another acc enhancements, acc augments or by missing a lot.
      Most people prefer the safe way by taking an additional acc enhancement.

      In Underworld gear though, 395 accuracy (5 enhancements) are the best DPS tradeoff for all classes. –Sindariel

      • Nanok

        Ty for the info. Makes sence :-)

  • http://gravatar.com/qilith83 Qilith

    Hi b’oarder.

    First of all I will congratulates you about your phenomenal works on Gunslinger/Sniper forums.
    Your website is very clear and efficient. It’s very ambitious to grab tutorials for all class.

    So your guide with power build for hybrid and lethaly really shock me :D I’m very curious and I will test this stats on dummy with my gear.

    Do you have several torparse to compare hybrid or lethaly spec with power build and crit build ?

    Qilith, Gunslinger on Darth Nihilus (French server)

    • http://swtorboard.wordpress.com paoweeotter

      Your welcome ^^,

      I do but I will have to dig it out of my old guild’s forums. I would gladly parse it on the dummy but unfortunately it will not yield accurate results right now due to the new tier of gear (not BiS yet). After getting BiS I would still need to grab a couple of (78) Crit mods and enhancements before I can get out the most accurate comparison parses of Pure Power vs High Crit, as i can. X-boson has a number-crunching thread on the Sniper forums if you would like to pick his brain :). He’ll almost always allow you to do so lol.

    • http://swtorboard.wordpress.com paoweeotter

      Your welcome ^^,

      I do but I will have to dig it out of my old guild’s forums. I would gladly parse it on the dummy but unfortunately it will not yield accurate results right now due to the new tier of gear (not BiS yet). After getting BiS I would still need to grab a couple of (78) Crit mods and enhancements before I can get out the most accurate comparison parses of Pure Power vs High Crit, as i can. X-boson has a number-crunching thread on the Sniper forums if you would like to pick his brain :) . He’ll almost always allow you to do so lol.

  • http://gravatar.com/kelebrin kelebrin

    I tested intensively Lethality today and I’m sure no crit is needed. I can see a benefit of having it for max dummy parses, but raid-wise it’s not needed at all. In raids you get bit more lag which delays your abilities a bit, thus lowering energy use, plus you usually use orbital not every minute, so usually you have either target acquired or adrenaline probe for that.

    I use full power build for Hybrid too and I use Engineering only for dailies, so for best dps I prefer power build.

    Concerning Alacrity – In semi-progress raiding guild I’m in, it will take me months to get surge/acc enhancements. Would it be beneficial for me to switch one or two 72 surge enhancements for 78 one alacrity/power that I got from set-bonus tokens?

    PS. Cheers for initiative. I’ve been reading your post on swtor forums for a while now and you’re posts about snipers from 2.0 PTS were main reason why I switched to main this class. It’s nice to have all your awesome guides and posts in one place.

    • http://gpromm.wordpress.com paoweeotter

      Your welcome! I plan on adding more class guides to this site though so keep in touch. I’ve been talking to the authors of some of the most popular class guides in the swtor forums (arsenal merc and sage/sorc) and will integrate them here as well.

  • Macewindy

    Very nice work to gather all this info Paowee :)

    I can’t say I was surprised to see that alacrity was usefull for uninterrupted fights. Did a fast little dummytest myself with some alac as a sharpshooter. With extra alac I had enough time to change my basic rotation from SS-TS-CB-CB-TS-AS-TS to SS-TS-CB-CB-TS-CB-CB-TS-AS-TS (2x CB+TS extra).

    I understand the reasoning of dropping the alac and take surge in opssituations. I do think some bossfights like Nevra and Titan could still benefit. Alltough I’m not going to carry 4 spare alac-enhancements for some faceroll bosses :P

    • http://gpromm.wordpress.com paoweeotter

      You got it right. Some boss fights you can theoretically get some gains with Alacrity like Nefra where you can turret the majority of the time. It all depends on the player if he/she wants to take the time and credits to swap out some enhancements for a few boss fights :)

  • Matto

    I was under the impression that if you run full lethality you needed crit to regen energy faster. Is this not the case?

    • http://gpromm.wordpress.com paoweeotter

      True. This was a concern for me as well after looking at X-Boson’s theorycrafting results. There’s 2 arguments regarding Crit as Lethality

      1) You want crit for the energy regen which translates to “probably” more DPS because it lessens the chance that you will auto-attack when you mess up your rotation.

      2) You don’t need crit since energy management is easy enough as it is in 2.0 (due to lower energy cost on your DoT + the alacrity change). If you can manage your energy well enough without the reliance on DoT crits, then Power is going to give you more DPS since Power > Crit point for point in 2.0.

      2.a) Lethality does not have Surge talents and the only benefit to getting more crit is getting more energy. And this leads to the argument again above.

      Personally I try not to think too much about it and I just keep at least 1, maybe 2 Crit mods or enhancements total when I run all 3 specs.

      • Matto

        Thanks dude. Ill give it a try.